[Alexia_Ashford]

Originally Posted by Captain Cass

Just popping in for a brief moment to note that the "I don't experience this, so the rest of x group should get over it" note is a pretty large fallacy; obviously there's a problem in the industry and obviously its filtering into games. As a tournament player and an online player, I've felt objectified and excluded. As a girl interested in sciences and tech, I've been neglected and patronized. And as a conscious consumer of media culture, I've recognized trends that paint certain products as for the boys and others as for the girls. (Hint: is it pink?)

As a gamer, I enjoy games. As a feminist, I look for the critical message in media. There's no reason why I can't do both. AA, I suggest you check out feministgamers.com (http://www.feministgamers.com/?cat=13) and gamegirladvance.com as a launch pad to see these discussions from their foundations and ways in which they are both wide spread throughout the industry and affect women gamers.

I have no interest in looking at a feminist gaming website, because I'm not a feminist. Sure, it can be a little irritating when you go on XBox Live and a small minority of 13 year old boys go "Omfg be my girlfriend", but the fact of the matter is, it's not that big of a deal.

As a matter of fact, the most sexist thing I've seen in this thread was posted by none other than you. The fact you think Nintendo caters to the female market more than Microsoft or Sony, and pretty much every game Nintendo puts out there for women is something like "Cooking Mama" or "Cooking Recipes", "Nintendogs", insinuating that women should get the fuck back in the kitchen, or play with cute little puppies. They don't treat us as serious gamers at all, whereas Microsoft and Sony aim to the general gaming market. I've never felt patronized by them, whereas with Nintendo, I have. I've been a serious gamer since I could walk yet all of a sudden Nintendo take an interest in the pink gamers market by giving us cute little puppy games, cooking games etc, and nothing serious at all.

I think this argument is absolutely ridiculous because although some men go "Omfg a girl on Halo 3", it's a minority and I've never experienced personal discrimination and harassment. It's also not fair to inflict your personal experiences with the male gender on male members here and speak as though you're speaking for the entire female gaming community. It's a very extreme point of view, to say the least.