Dead Space

[Rain Ocampo]

Mass Effect is a direct shutdown of your statement, MoS.

At least in my opinion, because ME has a pretty vast timeline, and is supposed to be a trilogy.

[Member_of_STARS]

Originally Posted by Rain Ocampo

Mass Effect is a direct shutdown of your statement, MoS.

At least in my opinion, because ME has a pretty vast timeline, and is supposed to be a trilogy.

I dont think you quite understood me- its not the capacity of the storyline which is the problem, but how much discussion the storyline provokes. Mass Effect and Bioshock both, compared to MGS and RE, provide little to no discussion/speculation because everything is explained to the player on the root level.

Its even easier with games with science fiction genre being dominated by fiction, instead of science, as its easy to dismiss anything and everything for fiction.

[Alexia_Ashford]

Mass Effect and Bioshock both, compared to MGS and RE, provide little to no discussion/speculation

I'm sorry, but that's rubbish. You're saying RE1 is better than Mass Effect, because it doesn't explain as much. RE only leaves a lot of questions because the timeline is so inconsistent because of poor writing. There are plenty of questions to be asked in Mass Effect.

Who are the Collectors?
What do the Collectors want?
Where do Reapers come from?
Why do Reapers want to harvest organics?
Who came before the Protheans?
How can Reapers be eternal and have no creator if they're mechanical?


Shall I go on?

[Member_of_STARS]

Originally Posted by Alexia_Ashford

You're saying RE1 is better than Mass Effect, because it doesn't explain as much.

RE1- arguably so, but REmake most definitely. Your questions are laughable at best because they offer no basis for speculation, whereas in RE universe, the speculation is thrilling BECAUSE people are using real life (rightfully so, for a science fiction genre) as a means to seal the holes.

RE only leaves a lot of questions because the timeline is so inconsistent because of poor writing. There are plenty of questions to be asked in Mass Effect.

Poor writing indeed, but Id say that poor writing has kept the communities alive and thriving until 2004. Beat that. Thats, however, not the only example- MGS writing is brilliant and the ammount of speculation (not plot hole coverups, but actual speculation) still beat ME by a huge margin. You dont HAVE to tell people everything on the root level, its a mistake.

Who are the Collectors?
What do the Collectors want?

Who gives a fuck? Its a plot device? Its kind of like you asking a question regarding the Ashfords before CVX was released. We dont need to speculate as they were freshly brought in as a "rabbits foot" in order to extend the story. A question- why were the Collectors never mentioned in Mass Effect game?

Where do Reapers come from?

Another plot device. Its fairly obvious that the Reapers did not come from "thin air" and the game ITSSELF explains their origin, basically saying that since the Protheans were not the first race, but were also victims to the Reapers; the Quarians´ storyline may have very well be the example, or explanation to where did the Reapers come from. In any case, it serves no interest, they are a cybernetic foe and logic would state that they, once, were created by organics.

Why do Reapers want to harvest organics?

Obviously self preservation. Sovereign itsself explains it when you talk to him. He just wants organics to die, obviously so they wont become a threat.

Who came before the Protheans?

Who gives a fuck? The plot is set up that we may never KNOW how many cycles have gone through. The universe is billions of years old, every cycle repeats after 50K years. This means that even in just one million years, theres 20 cycles.

How can Reapers be eternal and have no creator if they're mechanical?

Stretching for straws, thats a bullshit question.

Shall I go on?

Please, do. Amuse me. And afterwards, try to find out the reason why theres no standing-growing private Mass Effect community bar the "official" one(s)?

[Rain Ocampo]

I find Alexia's points pretty valid, and we apparently give a fuck. Because you're not a fan may not mean others aren't (under the assumption that you aren't... You seem to dislike sci-fi.) A topic I've DISCUSSED and SPECULATED with numerous people concerns the Cerberus group.

If it's the amount of discussion, it still leaves plenty of room for it, no matter how shitty the question comes off as to you.

[Member_of_STARS]

Originally Posted by Rain Ocampo

I find Alexia's points pretty valid, and we apparently give a fuck.

Theres nothing valid in thinking that Mass Effect offers a wide selection of topics that arent exactly clear and need either speculation or research to get an answer to. THAT is the point- everything is brought to the player on a silver platter. Its not necessarily a bad thing per se, but it limits the longetivity of the game post playthrough.

(under the assumption that you aren't... You seem to dislike sci-fi.) A topic I've DISCUSSED and SPECULATED with numerous people concerns the Cerberus group.

Oh please. Need I remind you what forum this is? As for the Cerberus group, Im interested in what speculations you came up with, as it served little to no purpose in the story, other than showing the diversity of the space controlled by the Citadel.

If it's the amount of discussion, it still leaves plenty of room for it, no matter how shitty the question comes off as to you.

Limited discussion and little speculation. Hence why Mass Effect thread has been dead for quite some time.

[Ganado]

Originally Posted by E-bully-monster :p

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Limited discussion and little speculation. Hence why Mass Effect thread has been dead for quite some time.

Well, considering this is a forum based on a survival horror genre with only a few people from here that only played it, I can see why there is only a minor of speculation while other discussions are more aimed at the other games.

You can always discuss the amount of depth of the universe and the story with the million of users that is registerd to the site, at the mass effect forums.

Mass Effect Community

You be surprised on how much detail some of these users put into their theorys and facts, and the lore of the franchise.

Cerberus is a big part of the recent mass effect book, with the prologue/epilogue being in third person of this leader, being known as the "ilusive man" planning humanity's iron fist for the galaxy. I would go into more detail but I am sure Emma would type it up (I R lazy )

EDIT: A topic I have found very intruiging is the whoe Rachi affair; go here if you want to read because there is quite a good debate you would find, and you got a fetish for things like this so go now!
Mass Effect Community - Rachni (I wonder how many times this has been asked) 2

[Member_of_STARS]

Originally Posted by Ganado

Well, considering this is a forum based on a survival horror genre with only a few people from here that only played it, I can see why there is only a minor of speculation while other discussions are more aimed at the other games.

Theres a lot more people here who have played ME on these forums, than you care to admit

You can always discuss the amount of depth of the universe and the story with the million of users that is registerd to the site, at the mass effect forums.

masseffect.bioware.com/forums

Jesus. What is up with people being stupid today! Its not about the DEPTH of the game, its about the plot nuances one has to seek explanation to through interesting discussions and most of all- clever speculation!

You be surprised on how much detail some of these users put into their theorys and facts, and the lore of the franchise.

Quick skim through the first 2 pages revealed pretty simplistic and generic topics. And I have ALL the answers I need. I dont have a single question regarding Mass Effect. Thats the point.

Cerberus is a big part of the recent mass effect GAME?, with the prologue/epilogue being in third person of this leader, being known as the "ilusive man" planning humanity's iron fist for the galaxy. I would go into more detail but I am sure Emma would type it up (I R lazy )

Ah, I see, where?

[Ganado]

Originally Posted by Member_of_STARS

Ah, I see, where?

The novels are canon to the franchise and it ties in with the sequel, so it's worth to add to the universe of mass effect.

Quick skim through the first 2 pages revealed pretty simplistic and generic topics. And I have ALL the answers I need. I dont have a single question regarding Mass Effect. Thats the point.

I look into the Mass Effect story Discussion because I find the best parts there, since everyone is sharing their thoughts of the story and mythos. But their are questiones in the series that are left open, even there is a lot of questions about the reapers and their intent; their is more than meets the eyes to them, as well the collectors that have been mentioned in the recent novel about their purposes and how their technology is very advanced than the other races out their.

Theres a lot more people here who have played ME on these forums, than you care to admit

That just adds more reason that their are people on here that have played the game so that's a plus if people do want to talk about the game, if so, but they do come here mainly for what the forum is based on, and other areas of this community. Oh Vass, I am not going down this route what I can see where this is going. I am going on the case of agree to disagree.